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		<title>India Trip Photos</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036" target="_blank"></a>I finally uploaded the pictures<br /> from my trip to India.<br /> <a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036" target="_blank">You can see them here.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="float: left; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1125&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="India Trip" width="75" height="100" /></a>I finally uploaded the pictures<br />
from my trip to India.<br />
<a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036" target="_blank">You can see them here.</a></p>
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		<title>India Trip: Part 2.5 &#8211; because I never get to use &#8220;dichotomy&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://conleyworld.com/2008/06/24/india-trip-part-25-because-i-never-get-to-use-dichotomy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I should have included this in my previous post, but, honestly, I never get to use the word dichotomy anywhere that doesn&#8217;t seemed forced (like plethra), so I felt this needed it&#8217;s own article.</p> <p>I&#8217;m a North American boy&#8230; grew up near Canada, visited Mexico a few times, but mainly hung in the mid-west of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have included this in my previous post, but, honestly, I never get to use the word dichotomy anywhere that doesn&#8217;t seemed forced (like plethra), so I felt this needed it&#8217;s own article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a North American boy&#8230; grew up near Canada, visited Mexico a few times, but mainly hung in the mid-west of the US of A.  I&#8217;ve been to both coasts a few times.  Why is that meaningful?  Well, it probably isn&#8217;t, but it should give you context to my point of view.  My conclusions may just be based on uninformed perspectives/experiences.<span id="more-72"></span></p>
<p>What was most apparent when I stepped out of the airport in Bangalore was the extreme dichotomy of wealth.  Bangalore is one of the fastest growing tech centers in the world with all of the megacorporations present.  Driving down any street will reveal multi-million dollar homes/buildings next to squaler and poverty.  Two of the wealthiest men in the world are brothers who head some concrete/building corporation in India (billion$).  India&#8217;s long past is based on a rigid class system.  I&#8217;ve been told that it is slowly and quickly (depending on where &#8211; again, dichotomy of social norms) being replaced by a society following a western free-enterprise approach.  But the growing pains are obvious.  There are beggers, there are homeless just as you will find in any major city around the world.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the difference for me&#8230; when I meet poor, impoverished in the US and surrounding areas, it&#8217;s more common to see the look of failure in their eyes.  In these people, they&#8217;ve given up, perhaps due to a feeling that society has given up on them.  In Bangalore, I did not see that.  The poor did not have much, but they were not defeated.  They still had the look of hope in their eyes.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t draw any conclusions here&#8230; they have a strong sense of faith (varied across the areas), corrupt government, poor health standards and a growing sense of have&#8217;s/have not&#8217;s, but how is that really different from here?</p>
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		<title>India Trip: Part 2 &#8211; the people and things to do</title>
		<link>http://conleyworld.com/2008/06/20/india-trip-part-2-the-people-and-things-to-do/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#8217;m just going with some random perspectives on what I saw and experienced&#8230; very much train of thought.  You can see the <a title="image gallery from trip" href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036" target="_blank">pictures I took here</a>.</p> •The people are incredibly nice. Often, they want to practice their english with native speakers, so you will find yourself being engaged [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#8217;m just going with some random perspectives on what I saw and experienced&#8230; very much train of thought.  You can see the <a title="image gallery from trip" href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1036" target="_blank">pictures I took here</a>.</p>
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<li>•The people are incredibly nice.  Often, they want to practice their english with native speakers, so you will find yourself being engaged in conversation with everyone.</li>
<li>•Even though you may be tempted, DO NOT ORDER A STEAK AT ANY RESTAURANT.  It&#8217;s not that they <img class="alignleft" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 5px; float: left;" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1536&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="A cow" width="158" height="118" />will be offended.  If it&#8217;s on the menu, it&#8217;s there for a reason.  It&#8217;s not going to be good, though.  I told a friend I was going to India and going to have a steak, so I felt obligated.  It&#8217;s not that I wanted to offend anyone, I thought it would be ironic.  Little did I know the levels the irony would take.  It was the most dreadful piece of meat I&#8217;ve seen.  Not only did that cow die of old age, it must have laid alongside the road while someone performed some ceremony for days on end.<span id="more-67"></span></li>
<li>•Chinese food is really good there.  India is part of Asia and pretty much every restaurant had some &#8220;traditional&#8221; asian cuisine on it, but prepared with very subtle Indian spices.</li>
<li>•If you like Indian cuisine, you will be in heaven.  Most places offered sampler meals.  It can get pretty hot, so be prepared.  Also, it appeared that the majority of people ate vegetarian.  So, you will be asked (or not, so prepare to ask for) &#8220;veg&#8221; or &#8220;non-veg&#8221;.</li>
<li>•Enjoy the ride where ever you go&#8230; the roads are packed with toy cars that make MG&#8217;s look huge.  Well, about 1/3 of the vehicles are &#8220;cars&#8221;, another 1/3 are powered (kerosene more likely than not) rickshaws and the remainder being scooters.  Helmets aren&#8217;t really even suggested and don&#8217;t be shocked when you see little kids sitting up front on the scooters.  The Britt&#8217;s planned all the road ways <a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1453&amp;g2_imageViewsIndex=1" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="float: left; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1539&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="Rickshaw" width="216" height="162" /></a>so you&#8217;ll see everyone on the wrong side of the road, but side is really relative there.  The lines are more suggestions than real restrictions.  Think New York city with 3 times the honking, more chaotic driving, but with none of the road rage.  Yep&#8230; again, see bullet number 1.  Honking is just the way they let everyone know they are there.  No one yells or screams, everyone is relaxed.  They even honk at the traffic cops who sometimes try to direct traffic.  It&#8217;s all a game.  It&#8217;s more fun at night.  There are no orange flags, flares or reflectors if there is a breakdown.  Trucks just carry football size rocks in the back and lay them out around the vehicle as they fix a flat, for example.  When they are done, they just drive away leaving the rocks in the road.  Two incidents worth noting:
<ul>
<li>→I saw only one accident.  It looked like a bus hit a scooter.  Everyone helped move the scooter out of the road.  The driver was walking around and didn&#8217;t look seriously hurt.</li>
<li>→I saw only one fight as a result of some traffic incident.  Two men were in each other&#8217;s faces raising their voices and gesturing at the vehicles.  A group of people gathered around them.  Just as it looked like they were going to escalate into a physical altercation, they both broke out into big grins, waved at each other and returned to their vehicles.  It was like they put the show on for us as a joke, but just couldn&#8217;t keep it up.</li>
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<li>•If someone offers, go sight seeing.  My trip was 11 days with (obviously) a weekend in the middle.  Get the vendor/company you are visiting to take you on a trip.  They either a) want your business or b) want to keep your business.  Most of them probably never will see the sights on their own, so they will enjoy it, too.
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<li>→On saturday, we went on a tiger safari.  Now, I&#8217;m sure I was safe the entire time, but it felt more like if Jurassic Park was set in the backhills of Kentucky. The bus was an old city bus that was closing in on 40 quicker than I am and our main source of protection was the chain link fence that went over the class of the windows. Well, all the windows except the driver window.  I guess he was trained in special martial arts he could employ in the case of a Bengal tiger breaking through the windshield.  The park was divided into sections with man made stone walls with gates made up of more chain link fences and steal sheets slid back and fort<a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1074" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1076&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="DON\'T OPEN THE DOOR!" /></a>h letting the bus through.  It was actually pretty exciting (in a good way).  The only ohmygodwhathaveIdone moments were when we went down a blind turn at the bottom of a hill and came face to face with a bus coming right at us (no edges/side rails on these loose gravel/dirt roads) and when the &#8220;tour <a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1544" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" style="float: right;" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1545&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="Don't open the door!" width="219" height="292" /></a>guide&#8221; standing on the steps by the door (right behind my chair) opened the door so some guy could get an uninterrupted shot of the fully grown male tiger walking next to the bus.  YES!  YOU READ THAT RIGHT!  He opened the door with the tiger right there.  I quickly determined the kids looked like easier prey than me and slouched down in my chair waiting for the screams.  Nothing&#8230; the tiger and tour guide were in on the joke together or he had just ate when the last bus came through.</li>
<li>→On sunday, we went and toured some palaces dating back a few hundred years.  They were really interesting and, surprisingly, the Britt&#8217;s did a decent job keeping them up after they took over.  The odd part about this visit was, while waiting in line (5 hours from Bangalore), I ran into 4 people from AOL who I used to work with (one from here in Columbus).  They were in Bangalore on business and decided to go site seeing, too.  Makes you think the world&#8217;s a little smaller&#8230;</li>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a title="Mysore" href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1318&amp;g2_imageViewsIndex=1" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1520&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="Mysore" width="415" height="287" /></a></p>
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<li>•Learn to barter&#8230; if you are going to buy souvineers, do not pay full price.  This is one of the countries (like 99% of the world) that assume you will barter with them.  Don&#8217;t be nervous.  Determine what you want to spend, offer less, don&#8217;t be rebuked when they act insulted and talk about their family, etc&#8230; When it&#8217;s all done and if you buy something, compliment them on the item and let them know you think they both got a fair deal.  It&#8217;s part of the experience.  You can make it bad or enjoy it.  If you don&#8217;t like something, just walk away.  But if you look and try, you can get decent deals on hand crafted silver, wood carvings and other fun stuff</li>
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		<title>India Trip: Part 1 &#8211; the logistics of traveling</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Back at my rebound job, part of my responsibilities was to review and recommend an outsourcing vendor for the IT work on my project. The financials were fairly significant (IMO) and warranted a visit to each company site in India. There is nothing better than sitting across the table from people to either build or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back at my rebound job, part of my responsibilities was to review and recommend an outsourcing vendor for the IT work on my project.  The financials were fairly significant (IMO) and warranted a visit to each company site in India.  There is nothing better than sitting across the table from people to either build or ruin your confidence in them.  I&#8217;ll post another day about the value I found in the trip itself and process I followed, but I wanted to give a quick summary of the actual logistics of my traveling there.</p>
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<li>flight out of columbus was canceled due to poor visibility at O&#8217;hare&#8230; got on standby for earlier flight that was delayed and ended up at O&#8217;hare at the same time as canceled flight&#8230; not much weather problems&#8230; [American Airlines]</li>
<li>flight out of O&#8217;hare to london was delayed 3 hours due to mechanical issues that only Boeing mechanics could fix&#8230; couldn&#8217;t get them there in time, so switched to a 777<a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1450" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1452&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="O\'Hare to Hethrow" /></a></li>
<li>travel agency changed original booking and didn&#8217;t arrange for my baggage to be checked all the way to bangalore (I should have noticed, but was ignorant)&#8230; had to leave immigration at heathrow, go to baggage claim, get on express train to new terminal, check in bag, go through security in under 50 minutes to make flight&#8230; made it with 5 min to spare [British Air]</li>
<li>arrived in bangalore at 4AM&#8230; someone suggested arranging for a car at the hotel to pick me up&#8230; it was one of the smartest things I did&#8230; there was a mass of people outside the airport trying to get you to let them drive you wherever you were going (which would have required me to know where I was going) [Taj Residency]</li>
<li>didn&#8217;t rent a car, don&#8217;t rent a car&#8230; it&#8217;s chaos on the streets! The hotel can arrange for a car, <a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1047" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1048&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="Chaos on the streets" /></a>you could get pay a motorized rickshaw driver (equivalent of a taxi) to take you most places or, if you are there on business, have the company you are meeting pony up for a car.  They&#8217;ll do it.  They want your business.</li>
<li>don&#8217;t drink the water&#8230; everyone will tell you that&#8230; that also includes ice&#8230; no ice.  I listened and didn&#8217;t really get sick (pollution&#8230; more later), but one of the people I went with must have because he got pretty sick.  Everyone will offer you plenty of water bottles, warm soda (couldn&#8217;t find a cold can of diet coke to save my <a href="http://conleyworld.com/tag/life/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with life">life</a>) and coffee and tea.  I used this as an opportunity to pretty much break my caffeine addiction.  I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m healthier for it, but I&#8217;m definitely more tired.</li>
<li>don&#8217;t breath the air&#8230; ok, good luck with that, tell me how it goes!  The air quality is terrible in city.  I went out of the city on the weekend and it&#8217;s perfect, but in city just suffers from too much smog, vehicle pollution&#8230; some folks are burning kerosene along with their gas&#8230;  I&#8217;d get up in the morning to hit the gym, but after I was done with the treadmill, my lungs burned and my head hurt.  It was the pollution&#8230; seriously, I&#8217;m not THAT out of shape<a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1061&amp;g2_imageViewsIndex=0" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" style="margin-left: 20px; margin-right: 20px; float: right;" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1467&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="View from the hotel" width="210" height="158" /></a></li>
<li>Ok, slight tangent&#8230; the gym.  State of the art equipment in this hotel, clean towels, water bottles, everything you could ask for.  I&#8217;d get up and go somewhat early (6-ish).  It was just me and the security guard.  He&#8217;d follow me around (me with my ipod blaring in my ears) and stand by me just in case I needed something.  Again, seriously&#8230; the guy was very friendly, huge smile, kept offering me another towel or bottle of water.  I smiled back and nodded towards my towel and bottle.  He&#8217;d stand right next to the treadmill near my arm watching me.  Now, I missed my kids, but this guy really helped fill that void left by a 4 year old (once you realize he&#8217;s not creepy, just WAY TOO FRIENDLY).  With his broken english, I never learned his name, but I called him Stan and for an hour each day, he was my faithful companion as I lifted weights, ran a few miles and inhaled more pollution than I want to think about.</li>
<li>Plan your trip when there is a chance of snow&#8230; It was in the 80&#8242;s, no humidity and not a cloud in the sky when a freak snow storm in March hit Columbus, Ohio.  For those of you up North, just trust me here&#8230; a foot of snow fell in 12 hours and pretty much everyone in the city was locked down for 3-4 days.  My wife would have been fine, but she was left with our mini-van with my SUV at the airport.  She wasn&#8217;t thrilled with me <img src='http://conleyworld.com/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>midway through the trip, the airport workers union started threatening a strike.  Concerned we wouldn&#8217;t make our flights, we modified our departure plans and got the<a href="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1403" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" style="float: right;" src="http://conleyworld.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&amp;g2_itemId=1537&amp;g2_serialNumber=2" alt="Going Home" width="246" height="185" /></a> least risky flight options home.  Leaving Bangalore was fine, but in Delhi, the signs of the strike were obvious.  It appeared that the main workers on strike were the janitorial staff.  We had an 8 hour layover.  We couldn&#8217;t actually get into the terminal (where the airline&#8217;s business class lounge was located) until 4 hours before our flight.  There was a general &#8220;waiting area&#8221; outside the terminal, but the janitorial staff hadn&#8217;t cleaned in 2 days.  It was a pit.  There were newspaper and television reports all over the place taking pictures of people walking through the trash.  At one point, I had a photographer come up and ask me if I would walk through the refuse while they took pictures.  I kindly refused.  You&#8217;d be surprised how many people agreed to do it. [King Fisher airlines from Bangalore to Delhi]</li>
<li>4 hours later, we were able to go through security&#8230; Here&#8217;s a nugget to remember, if you see a long line in security, it&#8217;s perfectly fine to bribe the security guards to bring you to the front of the line and bypass everything.  You still have to go through security, but $5 will get you ahead of the pack.</li>
<li>Fly business class if it is at all possible&#8230; for no other reason than having a nice place to relax when you are waiting for your flights.  The food wasn&#8217;t bad, drinks were free and no one bugged you.</li>
<li>Indian airport security measures don&#8217;t meet the standards of the major airlines (gosh, wonder why?).  So, prepare to go through the same questions and inspections on the gangway down to the airplane. [British Air]</li>
<li>For some reason, the airline food was better going TO India than it was coming home.</li>
<li>They will pass out your immigration card to fill out&#8230; do it on the plane and try to get quickly to the lines.  They pass you through fast, but still.  It was 5 AM after around 17 hours of traveling already&#8230; (leaving bangalore, going to delhi then O&#8217;hare).</li>
<li>I dragged my bad to the bag checkin for my return flight home&#8230; pretty smooth</li>
<li>Got to the terminal in O&#8217;hare, grabbed a triple Venti white chocolate mocha from Starbucks to celebrate and staggered to the gate.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s O&#8217;hare, so the flight was delayed 2 hours.  I spent the time watching a bunch of high school kids waiting to start their trip to Mexico with 3 very nervous looking teachers.</li>
<li>It was good getting home.</li>
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<p>Next&#8230; The people and things to do&#8230;</p>
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